Andrew Korybko
The same proof that “Non-Russian Pro-Russians” present
in support of their claim that Iran dealt a “crushing defeat” to the US could
be presented by Ukraine to claim the same about Russia once the special
operation ends if its maximalist goals aren’t achieved in full just like the
US’ weren’t
Russian Foreign Ministry
spokeswoman Maria Zakharova echoed Iranian authorities’ rhetoric by describing
the US-Iranian
ceasefire as a “crushing
defeat” for the US, which most “Non-Russian Pro-Russians” (NRPRs) agree
with, who support Iran in large part due to it being the US’ adversary.
Although she didn’t elaborate on how she arrived at this conclusion, many NRPRs
did, and the gist is that the US failed to achieve its maximalist goals despite
its superior force capabilities.
Even though Iran was hit very
hard by the US during the Third
Gulf War, Iran also hit US bases in the region, the US’ Gulf allies, and
Israel pretty hard too. It didn’t sink even a single American ship like many
were hyped up to expect would happen, nor did it inflict any damage on the US’
or Israel’s nuclear triad, yet the very fact that it survived and harmed its
adversaries is presented as proof of its victory. That’s fair, and everyone has
the right to their own view, but NRPRs might soon find themselves in a dilemma.
That’s because the special operation might hypothetically end without Russia achieving its maximalist goals of demilitarizing Ukraine, denazifying it, restoring the country’s constitutional neutrality (including in the practical sense of severing its ties with NATO), and controlling all the disputed territory. Ukraine might then parrot Iran’s boasts to claim victory over Russia for the same reason that Iran is claiming victory over the US, and which Russia endorses, by pointing to the failure to achieve its maximalist goals.
Unlike Iran, Ukraine sunk some Russian ships with US-UK assistance and even attacked its nuclear triad on several occasions, not to mention its failed invasion of Kursk Region that was unprecedented in the post-WWII era. While Iran inflicted much greater economic damage on the Gulf Kingdoms’ refineries, Ukraine still inflicted its own similar but less significant damage on Russia’s refineries. Russian casualties also far outnumber American ones, and its conflict has raged for many times longer than the US’ too.
When taken together, the same
proof that NRPRs present in support of their claim that Iran dealt a “crushing
defeat” to the US could be presented by Ukraine to claim the same about Russia
once the special operation ends if its maximalist goals aren’t achieved in
full. That would put them in a dilemma whereby they’d either have to revise
their assessment of the Third Gulf War or claim that Ukraine also “crushingly
defeated” Russia in order to remain consistent. Peer pressure might also play a
role too.
Anyone can still conclude that
Russia was “crushingly defeated” if that’s truly what they believe for the same
reasons as they claimed that Iran “crushingly defeated” the US, but some NRPRs
might be saying that about the US for political reasons. Likewise, Iran’s foes
have claimed that Iran was the one that was “crushingly defeated”, but they too
might be lying. Unlike the NRPRs, however, they wouldn’t be in a dilemma once
the special operation ends since they’d claim the same about Russia for the
same reasons.
Folks should always formulate their opinions based on whatever they believe to be the case even if it’s “politically incorrect”, not because they want to make a political point, otherwise they risk contradicting themselves. There’s no single standard when it comes to determining who won or lost a conflict, but those who apply certain standards should cogently explain why they don’t apply in other cases when their application would portray the side that they support as having lost or at least not having won.
Andrew Korybko,Substack, April 12, 2026
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Comparison is not reason. Before all, in Ukraine, it's not a Russia-Ukraine war but a NATO-Russia war.
ResponderExcluirFirst, those two wars are not finished. So nobody can say who is the winner. One must remember that some wars see only losers...
Second. In spring 2022 , Ukraine was beaten and ready to accept Russians conditions in Istanbul( very far from initial russian conditions), after, it was a NATO war.
Third. Ukraine have never had a strategic lever of destruction like Ormuz or all Gulf countries able to make world , include USA, economically collapse.
Fourth. Russia never targeted heads of Ukrainian state and practiced a total war like USIS in Iran.
Five : Ukraine, Iran or AMC jesters can sing the lullaby they want, nobody care except usual morons.