Andrew Korybko
Here’s
the full interview that I gave to Sputnik Brasil about USAID, excerpts of which
were published in their report titled “'Arma principal da guerra híbrida': o
que muda na política externa dos EUA com o fim da USAID?”
1. How has USAID been used by the government of United States
through the years to meddle in other countries, mainly Brazil and other
countries from Latin America?
USAID is infamous for funding political programs under the cover
of human rights and democracy to meddle in the recipient country’s domestic
affairs. This popularly takes the form of funding movements, including media
projects, for exposing alleged corruption in Latin American states. The purpose
is to artificially generate a groundswell of grassroots opposition to incumbent
governments that manifests itself through street protests and/or surprise
election showings in order to bring about political change.
Some of the locals who collaborate with these foreign-funded
political projects sometimes go on to become advisors or even figures in the
more pro-American governments that replace the targeted ones. Therefore, USAID
doesn’t just work to remove Latin American governments, it also sometimes
provides trained advisors and personnel for the next governments. This makes it
a premier weapon of US Hybrid Warfare in the hemisphere.
2. Does the end of USAID mean the end of US interference in
other countries’ domestic affairs? Will they just change their method instead?
New Secretary of State Marco Rubio declared that he’s the acting
administrator of USAID as it goes through radical reforms. Per Trump’s
Executive Order suspending foreign aid for 90 days, with the exception of
emergency humanitarian aid, an assessment is taking place to determine their
efficiency and consistency with policy. Accordingly, many programs dealing with
socio-cultural issues like LGBT will likely be cut, while foreign media funding
and the training of foreign political cadres will likely continue.
3. How do you evaluate Trump’s decision to end USAID?
USAID made sense from the perspective of older American interests back when it was first founded, but it was hijacked by liberal-globalist ideologues to proselytize radical socio-cultural policies that don’t objectively align with the US’ national interests. Examples of the most ridiculous programs are being shared all across X right now. Many Americans are enraged to discover what they were funding and surprised that a lot of the money also went to domestic “NGOs” for implementing these projects.
Ending USAID was necessary since that’s the only way to
implement the radical reforms that the Trump Administration envisages, which
are most immediately reducing government expenditures via the Elon Musk-led
“Department Of Government Efficiency” (DOGE) and then realigning those that
remain with policy. Many employees are also diehard ideological opponents of
Trump and all that he represents so keeping them around runs the risk that
they’d try to sabotage his second term like they did his first one.
What’s essentially happening is that Trump 2.0 entered power
with a detailed plan for purging hostile elements of the US’ “deep state”,
which refers in this context to its permanent military, intelligence, and
diplomatic bureaucracies, with some also including its administrative and other
ones too. USAID was a major component of the US’ power structure for decades
prior to Trump’s second term so dismantling it is considered crucial for the
success of his team’s foreign policy.
4. Some US politicians have criticized the Trump
Administration’s reforms of federal agencies, fearing that confidential
information might leak out and even describing the overall gist of what’s going
on as a “serious threat to national security”. What do they fear? Is this a
sign of USAID’s connection with the CIA like Musk recently talked about?
Not every USAID employee and project is connected to the CIA,
but the CIA does indeed sometimes employ the aforesaid in advance of its goals
due to the relative ease with which their democracy and human rights covers
enable US spies to infiltrate and/or destabilize foreign countries. Those who
are criticizing Trump’s reforms are elements of the US’ power structure who
stand to lose from his and Musk’s campaign to expose irresponsible government
spending and political meddling abroad.
Some of them do have a point, namely that innocent USAID
employees might be suspected of being spies and this could lead to credible
threats against them, but the Trump Administration is willing to risk those
consequences in pursuit of its ambitious reform campaign. Purging USAID, the
State Department, and the “deep state” more broadly is the only way to prevent
them from sabotaging Trump’s foreign policy the second time around, which he
envisages revolutionizing the US’ relations with the world.
Excerpts from this interview were published in Sputnik Brasil’s report titled “'Arma principal da guerra híbrida': o que muda na política externa dos EUA com o fim da USAID?”
Andrew Korybko, Substack,
February 6, 2025
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